Bachelor In Paradise - **Finale** - Episode 7 - September 8 2014 - General Discussion - *Spoilers*

joshfan wrote:Can someone explain to me why ashlee is so hated? To me I understand why she was so attached to graham first ep. I mean similar to clare they both wanted to settle down instead of exploring other options. I mean they both knew zack and graham were the ones they were gonna pursue. Why break that bond? If it was me, i would try hard to maintain something i believe is special. Esp someone like graham. And with the badmouthing clare i get it. But ashlee did say she did see clare as someone unlike her (ashlee has pastor parents and she easily judged clare who supposedly got in on with juan pablo) but don't we all judge to easily sometimes? And the whole camera thing, i would be surprised too because cameras are usually up in ur face or u can see them while they are filming u. It's understandable that she was wondering why there were no cameras arouns. As for the mic, i have no idea. I think its pure editing. Even in michelles blog she mentioned ashlee did do sweet things that werent shown. And in the season preview, ashlee is clearly there for the girls. Supporting them as they cry etc. and tbh if u pay attention to her and graham in scenes like in the background. They seem pretty happy. He is always touching her. So i do think something good happened between them but for some reason they couldnt make it work outside. Though i did read somewhere that they tried making it work outside. Ashlee even considered moving to la or ny wherever graham was. So i hope their breakup isnt too brutal graham wouldnt hurt her too much though. But preview seems like it would be really dramatic. Sorry for the ramble but i do see where ashlee is coming from. As for graham and ashlee i must admit i am a fan

chloep wrote:^^ The "hatred" for AshLee has very little to do with her craziness this season(Though it certainly doesn't help her case).... Her ways are well documented on this forum... From her attention-whorism to her desperate attempts to hook-up with every Bach alum, to her shallow, vain and petty personality....

joshfan wrote:

chloep wrote:^^ The "hatred" for AshLee has very little to do with her craziness this season(Though it certainly doesn't help her case).... Her ways are well documented on this forum... From her attention-whorism to her desperate attempts to hook-up with every Bach alum, to her shallow, vain and petty personality....

Oh i havent seen. Where can i find it in the forum?

joshfan wrote:Can someone explain to me why ashlee is so hated? To me I understand why she was so attached to graham first ep. I mean similar to clare they both wanted to settle down instead of exploring other options. I mean they both knew zack and graham were the ones they were gonna pursue. Why break that bond? If it was me, i would try hard to maintain something i believe is special. Esp someone like graham. And with the badmouthing clare i get it. But ashlee did say she did see clare as someone unlike her (ashlee has pastor parents and she easily judged clare who supposedly got in on with juan pablo) but don't we all judge to easily sometimes? And the whole camera thing, i would be surprised too because cameras are usually up in ur face or u can see them while they are filming u. It's understandable that she was wondering why there were no cameras arouns. As for the mic, i have no idea. I think its pure editing. Even in michelles blog she mentioned ashlee did do sweet things that werent shown. And in the season preview, ashlee is clearly there for the girls. Supporting them as they cry etc. and tbh if u pay attention to her and graham in scenes like in the background. They seem pretty happy. He is always touching her. So i do think something good happened between them but for some reason they couldnt make it work outside. Though i did read somewhere that they tried making it work outside. Ashlee even considered moving to la or ny wherever graham was. So i hope their breakup isnt too brutal graham wouldnt hurt her too much though. But preview seems like it would be really dramatic. Sorry for the ramble but i do see where ashlee is coming from. As for graham and ashlee i must admit i am a fan

joshfan wrote:And with the date card, i mean honestly marcus and lacy had multiple dates and all guys had a date card. Except graham. If i was ashlee, i would be pretty pissed. Idk if she was pissed that she didnt get a datr but it seems she was genuinely upset by the fact that graham did miss out cause he did deserve one. I mean he should have had that privilege to invite a girl on a date. And perhaps ashlee who is invested in graham really wanted the opport to be asked out a legit date away from others and the beach. Jmo

dw_a_mom wrote:

joshfan wrote:And with the date card, i mean honestly marcus and lacy had multiple dates and all guys had a date card. Except graham. If i was ashlee, i would be pretty pissed. Idk if she was pissed that she didnt get a datr but it seems she was genuinely upset by the fact that graham did miss out cause he did deserve one. I mean he should have had that privilege to invite a girl on a date. And perhaps ashlee who is invested in graham really wanted the opport to be asked out a legit date away from others and the beach. Jmo

Part of me wonders if Graham had quietly hinted to the producers he didn't really need a date card, ie that he wasn't that interested in spending more private time with AshLee.