Re: The Bachelor 18 - Episode 1 - Discussion - Spoilers

by **Sprite** Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:12 am

umngirl wrote:^Andi was fully covered in nude undergarments which can be seen in the final photo. So I believe a compromise was reached and they just made it look like they were nude. Although Lucy actually was.

Yes I noticed that...even in one of Lucy's naked shots, she was wearing bikini bottoms...as I'm sure she was walking down the street with the dog.

That whole thing was just stupid. Why do you have to be naked to save a dog? I know why they do it because it gets people talking, but still, it is just dumb and any professional woman who agrees to do it can't be thinking too much of her career. Notice they didn't have Sharleen on that date. I liked how Elise handled it. She knows who wants to be naked and traded for the fire hydrant.

by SonjaB Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:47 am

Sprite wrote:
umngirl wrote:^Andi was fully covered in nude undergarments which can be seen in the final photo. So I believe a compromise was reached and they just made it look like they were nude. Although Lucy actually was.

Yes I noticed that...even in one of Lucy's naked shots, she was wearing bikini bottoms...as I'm sure she was walking down the street with the dog.

That whole thing was just stupid. Why do you have to be naked to save a dog? I know why they do it because it gets people talking, but still, it is just dumb and any professional woman who agrees to do it can't be thinking too much of her career. Notice they didn't have Sharleen on that date. I liked how Elise handled it. She knows who wants to be naked and traded for the fire hydrant.

About women and dogs, its a old mythology thing that women are related to dogs. Something about Jezebel being eaten by dogs, and the constellation Isis becoming constellation Sirius the dog star. Whats mans best friend, is a it a B word or is it a woman?
Plus in the porn world, women and dogs is very popular. Theres a escort service that one hollywood male movie star would order up , ordering up a woman and a German shepard, and the rest you can guess. Its pretty sad to resort that low.

by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:57 am

That is the charity, not TB though. The whole basis of the charity is to raise awareness through shots of models with dogs.
http://www.modelsnmutts.com/

As for it being unprofessional? I believe Models and Mutts are very successful in their mission, and nobody puts a gun to the girls heads. Moving to porn seems a little over the top to me. JMO.

Some would say just being on the bachelor would negatively impact professionals... although I have yet to see this (dentist, doctors, seem to have gone through pretty safely). In some ways, Andy's reputation would have been more at risk (prosecuting low-lifes in the USA) than Sharleen's (contracted to a opera house in Germany where shhe is getting great reviews, recently nominated for an award... pretty sure the opera world doesnt care what she does on tv!)

by SonjaB Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:18 am

sophienette wrote:That is the charity, not TB though. The whole basis of the charity is to raise awareness through shots of models with dogs.
http://www.modelsnmutts.com/

As for it being unprofessional? I believe Models and Mutts are very successful in their mission, and nobody puts a gun to the girls heads. Moving to porn seems a little over the top to me. JMO.

Some would say just being on the bachelor would negatively impact professionals... although I have yet to see this (dentist, doctors, seem to have gone through pretty safely). In some ways, Andy's reputation would have been more at risk (prosecuting low-lifes in the USA) than Sharleen's (contracted to a opera house in Germany where shhe is getting great reviews, recently nominated for an award... pretty sure the opera world doesnt care what she does on tv!)

I know, but why does it always got to be naked women, laugh out loud

! I see thru a guys eyes and my husband wanted to change the channel when Juan Pablo was taking off his shirt, Im serious. And he wont let me watch Ghost with Patrick Swayze. My husband is a handsome guy, could have been a abercrombie model when young, but guys are just as sensitive. Whenever I was dating they get offended just as much as we do with men being exploited.
I say bring on the naked guys and cats calendar !!!
What if naked Rome and Greece was brought back and there were naked guys everywhere, statues and olympic games in the nude, Men should get a taste of the world they put us thru. laugh out loud

. Were swamped by Victorias secret ads and images of near nude or nude women everywhere. Im not a lesbian, why isnt it the other way around? Naked guys and cats, Thats the answer. :shocked!:

by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:38 am

:bigsmile:

by anders Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:04 pm

Who are the F4?? I know the F2, just not F3&4

by Rolly Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:11 pm

F3 Andi F4 Renee ...I think....

by Kelad9 Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:10 pm

Sprite wrote:
SonjaB wrote:I might skip the whole season . Just not feeling it with Juan Pablo . And the whole exploitive naked women and dogs photo shoot was a big turn off.

I've been pretty critical of his smirk and the fact that he does not seem to be the brightest bulb in the pack but, sometimes the seasons where we don't get emotionally invested can be the most fun...and let's face it, the photo shoot was not his idea. No doubt some producer came up with the bright idea when naked Lucy was cast...let's see how many times we can get her naked and maybe a few others as well.

I was pleasantly surprised by how the teacher...Elise?...handled the situation and switched with Lucy. I don't know what Andi the lawyer was thinking. And I must also admit that I was also pleasantly surprised by JPab with how he handled the whole Victoria mess. Overall, I'm liking a few of his ladies...Renee, Clare, Andi, Sharleen and even JPab is not quite as annoying as I had anticipated...so far! Now if only he would stop with the stupid smirk and drawing out his syllables...Bacheeeeloooorrrr, Caaaaamilllllaaaa.

He really isn't the brightest, but he's obviously a ladies man. He loves the ladies and they love him back. Nothing wrong with it since he seems to be very respectful of them. Thou I will have to say Juan Pablo also doesn't do it for me. I am finding his ladies more entertaining than he is. Yay! No favorites and not invested which should make it for a fun season to watch. :) So far I like Clare, Renee, Chelsie.. Still kinda iffy on Nikki and Andi as i can't read their body language as well as I can the others. My one and only beef with Juan Pablo are his hand mannerisms which is probably going to drive me crazy by the end of the season. I'm sure he doesn't realize he's doing that. He's very genuine about his daughter and I find him adorable when we see him talk about her. When he's with the ladies, ehh... body language.... also very iffy.

by **Sprite** Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:53 pm

Kelad9 wrote:
Sprite wrote:
SonjaB wrote:I might skip the whole season . Just not feeling it with Juan Pablo . And the whole exploitive naked women and dogs photo shoot was a big turn off.

I've been pretty critical of his smirk and the fact that he does not seem to be the brightest bulb in the pack but, sometimes the seasons where we don't get emotionally invested can be the most fun...and let's face it, the photo shoot was not his idea. No doubt some producer came up with the bright idea when naked Lucy was cast...let's see how many times we can get her naked and maybe a few others as well.

I was pleasantly surprised by how the teacher...Elise?...handled the situation and switched with Lucy. I don't know what Andi the lawyer was thinking. And I must also admit that I was also pleasantly surprised by JPab with how he handled the whole Victoria mess. Overall, I'm liking a few of his ladies...Renee, Clare, Andi, Sharleen and even JPab is not quite as annoying as I had anticipated...so far! Now if only he would stop with the stupid smirk and drawing out his syllables...Bacheeeeloooorrrr, Caaaaamilllllaaaa.

He really isn't the brightest, but he's obviously a ladies man. He loves the ladies and they love him back. Nothing wrong with it since he seems to be very respectful of them. Thou I will have to say Juan Pablo also doesn't do it for me. I am finding his ladies more entertaining than he is. Yay! No favorites and not invested which should make it for a fun season to watch. So far I like Clare, Renee, Chelsie.. Still kinda iffy on Nikki and Andi as i can't read their body language as well as I can the others. My one and only beef with Juan Pablo are his hand mannerisms which is probably going to drive me crazy by the end of the season. I'm sure he doesn't realize he's doing that. He's very genuine about his daughter and I find him adorable when we see him talk about her. When he's with the ladies, ehh... body language.... also very iffy.

I need to see a little bit more of him before I get a handle on him. I don't find him particularly engaged with any of the women thus far. The date with Clare should have been romantic but to me he looked bored. The Kat date didn't look much better. Same deal with the dog date. I thought at first it might be me since he doesn't do it for me and I wasn't looking forward to his season, but I'm starting to think that it is him and he really is just not into any of them.

by SonjaB Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:13 pm

From the spoilers, I heard that he ends up with nobody and might have gone back to the mother of his daughter. If so, the show was such a waste of time to watch. (frown)

by eliza3 Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:16 am

It all seems to forced to me. For me it seems like he has a "handler/producer" behind him telling him what to say. It just does' seem authentic at all

by **Sprite** Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:13 am

SonjaB wrote:From the spoilers, I heard that he ends up with nobody and might have gone back to the mother of his daughter. If so, the show was such a waste of time to watch. (frown)

According to RS he picks Nikki but they don't get engaged...I can't really criticize that. Of course, considering that Carla (Camilla's mama), was supposedly there with Camilla and him and his parents during the time they filmed in LA, it does make me wonder just how much he really wanted to find someone else.

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